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This is probably not something you want to read if you're a fan and loved the movie. Just a warning.


I don't, really, have a problem with any of the other Twilight films. They did what they could with their source material and, despite Kristen Stewart not being even remotely my favourite actress, they were entertaining. That's all I really want in a movie.

So, naturally, I kind of had 'expectations' for BD2. None of which I felt were really met. Except, strangely, I didn't mind Kristen Stewart at all.

I wasn't spoiled for the end. I mean, there's a fight sequence as part of the trailer, so obviously there was going to be a fight. I don't know if they were trying to fool the audience or not. If they were trying to make you think the fight was real, they really shouldn't have started off with such an obvious move. Because it took me less than 5 seconds to go 'yeah, this isn't real'. It took me slightly longer to figure out it was a vision, but that's not really important. Before anyone even moves it's obviously fake. Because had it been real, every single fan of the books would have been pissed that they had changed anything! How more obvious can you be?

If it wasn't supposed to be a fool, then good, it wasn't. It was sort of fun, although even as a vision the fight was really too easy. Though full points for Marcus' 'Finally' line, because that part made me laugh.

Stepping back from the fight scene, I really felt that the movie went much too quickly. Some people have said to me that it feels so much longer than 2 hours. It really didn't. It didn't even feel like 2 hours. I felt the opening credits did nothing for me and just seemed to be filling time they should have spent on developing all the new characters a bit more. I liked the end credits, however, as it was a nice nod (apparently my point about LeFevre not getting credited is moot, as I've been told she was. I missed it however, which may be telling). However, with the long end credits (a la ROTK) the beginning ones felt even more like time filler. In a 2 hour movie, you shouldn't have time filler.

I also felt that certain scenes, like the opening scenes after Bella wakes up, really could have used some more dialogue and the rest of the Cullens. It's actually a nice sequence in the books, and they didn't draw upon that at all. There are also a few decidedly quick cuts across scenes which showed a poor lack of editing, that was not there in BD1. Many times it felt rushed towards the end. The book does not, despite the back part being shorter than the first section of the wedding/baby/Jacob's POV. Words take time to read, even for short scenes in a book. It feels slower and more fleshed out. This is hard to get in movies, as visual is naturally quicker, but they didn't seem to try very hard.

I liked Mackenzie, except I really think she was too old by the end. Or maybe just that she looks too old (I can't remember how old the actress was during filming). Nessie is supposed to take 7 years to reach maturity! Not 7 months. I just didn't buy it by the end, and it bugged me. I hate things that bug me, they make it very hard to enjoy a film.

However, bonus points for Alice and Jasper being quite book-true. Also, Bella going at Jacob for imprinting, because that never ceases to be funny. I did like the Charlie parts, even though that glade where Jacob shifts is starting to look worryingly familiar and over-used as a shooting spot. I loved Jenks, but would have loved to see more of that part (again). They managed to get quite a lot from the books in, but by the end when the Volturi's necklace shows up it just felt like the makers were trying to just get a check-list of stuff in without considering if it was important/focused on enough.

Lastly, I loved Benjamin, as I did in the book. Gareth and Kate could have their own show. I will never stop loving Marcus because it's Chris. I was a little bit more taken with Caius this time, but that's because of Jamie (also, CoB trailer? Not in England!). The cottage was cute. Jacob doesn't bug me anymore (he didn't last film either). And, finally, Carlisle and Esme are SO ADORABLE together it's faintly ridiculous.

In other words, it wasn't quite a waste of £6.80. I did have much higher hopes for a finale, though.



More importantly, I've just learned that Mockingjay will be two movies, as you do, because thank you HP you just had to start that didn't you? I'm already worried now I'm going to feel cheated by at least one part of it.

Date: 2012-11-26 06:23 pm (UTC)
ext_1358: (Default)
From: [identity profile] grav-ity.livejournal.com
Since The Book Cabal is right next to the Empire, we get a lot of pre- and post-movie goers loitering. The number of Twihards I've talked down from a full blown panic attack since BD2 came out would STUN you.

Actually, you're in England, where they do fandom like nowhere else. Never mind.

Date: 2012-11-26 09:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldanna.livejournal.com
What is wrong with people?

Never mind.

Date: 2012-11-27 02:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cliodna-bright.livejournal.com
I haven't read the whole thing yet, just wanted to say that they did give end credit time to both Rachel LeFevre and Dallas Howard. :)

Date: 2012-11-27 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldanna.livejournal.com
Really? I must have missed that. When the picture shows up it was Dallas Howard's Victoria, but it didn't seem to show LeFevre's at that point. Though maybe I missed it. If I did though, and I was looking for it, other people must have missed it too!

I'll change that in my post though.

Date: 2012-11-27 08:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cliodna-bright.livejournal.com
Maybe you overlooked it because you were expecting them to be at the same time? LeFevre's picture came up around the same time as James and Laurant's, while Howard's came up around the same time as Riley's. Which makes sense, I suppose. It was quite in the beginning I think.

I hate that they switched to Dallas Howard in Eclipse. It's one of my three Big Pet Peeves with the films.

Date: 2012-11-27 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cliodna-bright.livejournal.com
"Gareth and Kate could have their own show."

I know, right? Between their awesome chemistry and slowly reading Midnight Sun, I am suddenly way more interested in the Denali clan! I would love to know more about them all, particularly as they move forward after losing Irina and such.

Date: 2012-11-28 10:40 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldanna.livejournal.com
Mine too! I don't think she quite cut it as Victoria, and it bugged me the whole film!

Date: 2012-11-28 10:41 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eldanna.livejournal.com
If SM is ever going to write another book, I'd happily read one about the Denalis and their story. A, because it's longer and B, because they are an awesome group!

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